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 Post subject: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:25 pm 

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Appears to be a lot of 16U teams needing players.

1) A lot of the girls that have been playing "high" level travel ball since 10 years old,(there is no such thing at 8 and 10 years of age) are burned out, injured to the point of not playing anymore because of it, or just have better things to do because they don't have a desire to play on the next level

2) A lot of the so called "can't miss" prospects back in 10U and 12U (see above)

3) At 16U everyone can pretty much play, especially on the higher level. So the DD all of a sudden isn't the great player the parents thought they were at 10U and 12U when they were just bigger than everyone else.Puberty has a way of doing that. Now, you have to grind to compete ( and going 0-4 or 1-5 every weekend, isn’t fun anymore)and a lot of players who didn't start that young are willing to do just that.

4) 16U requires desire, commitment, and a dedication to strive for excellence in the sport of softball. It's no longer a reason for a social event. It's no longer, I'm playing to please Mom and Dad. There are so many other ways to have fun with friends and family and please your parents. Now, you're playing for YOU, no one else.

My points are specific for the most part to the constant looking for an "A" level this or that. Bottom line, if they are an "A" level player they'll find you, if they are looking to move to another team. Because if they are truly an "A" player they apparently have lots of options,( and know lots of coaches, players, and parents that know what they are capable of). My suggestion would be taking a "B" level player with the characteristics listed in point number 4, that wants to play on the next level,and developing them. It's called "coaching"

Good luck, see you at the fields


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:32 pm 

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I don't think too many coaches in 16U and above really care to "coach up" players anymore. They rather collect talent and write out lineups every weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:19 pm 

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Dirt Life wrote:

3) At 16U everyone can pretty much play, especially on the higher level. So the DD all of a sudden isn't the great player the parents thought they were at 10U and 12U when they were just bigger than everyone else.Puberty has a way of doing that. Now, you have to grind to compete ( and going 0-4 or 1-5 every weekend, isn’t fun anymore)and a lot of players who didn't start that young are willing to do just that.



I really like this point. We're not to 16u or even 14u yet but see my 12u gaining ground on the studs of 10u and 12u. Teams that passed on her or carried her as a minor role player now aren't as solid as the one she's playing on where she has a bigger role as she enters her last 12u year. She has a bigger desire to succeed now than she ever has, it's been uphill all the way. To me, this is more fun to watch than seeing your 8u / 10u dominate her piers just because of strength, speed, or just natural ability. Having work and determination give the edge is so much more fulfilling to see and plus it finally gives credence to what her dad has been telling her for the last 4 years about hard work paying off. Struggling is not a new experience for this kid, we know how to work out of it. Do the studs??

Great post, very hopeful for what is to come.


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:02 pm 

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Teams that passed on her or carried her as a minor role player now aren't as solid as the one she's playing on where she has a bigger role as she enters her last 12u year. She has a bigger desire to succeed now than she ever has, it's been uphill all the way.


Dirt Diamond,

Wait until second year 14U. This is where you'll see a lot of those people eat crow, (they'll never admit it to you though) that passed on you daughter or sat her due to a lack of perspective and coaching ability, or just plain "Daddy ball". Now, most of their daughters are nowhere to be found, or if they are, they aren't even close to the same level. Having everything handed to you and not earning it, usually doesn't end well. Players that have a chip on their shoulder tend to show up on the big stage, not fold because someone has been there to prop them up and make excuses and blame everyone and everything else ,every time they fail. Enjoy the ride, I know I am.


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:09 am 

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I would love to watch you all play Dirt Life. What team do you all play for?


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:43 am 

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Heard Dat wrote:
I don't think too many coaches in 16U and above really care to "coach up" players anymore. They rather collect talent and write out lineups every weekend.


If you think that’s all we do at 18u you are wrong! I will love for you to come out to our practice or come sit in the dug out for a couple of games!


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:36 am 

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Dirt Life wrote:
Appears to be a lot of 16U teams needing players.


4) 16U requires desire, commitment, and a dedication to strive for excellence in the sport of softball. It's no longer a reason for a social event. It's no longer, I'm playing to please Mom and Dad. There are so many other ways to have fun with friends and family and please your parents. Now, you're playing for YOU, no one



I agree with most of your points and understand that you're mostly referring to A level teams, but there are girls who are committed and want to play their best AND socialize and have fun. There seems to be no room for fun in A level, so that sometimes shuts out really good players since every team wants to be A level. That doesn't mean certain girls aren't dedicated or striving for excellence. My daughter quit A ball because the competitive, win at all costs environment doesn't suit her personality, but she works hard and is committed to her B level team. Quitting softball shouldn't be the only option after 14u. A ball is a bunch of hype making alot of girls hang up their cleates, which is unfortunate.


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 Post subject: Re: 16U...where the rubber hits the road...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:06 pm 

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Dirt Life wrote:
Appears to be a lot of 16U teams needing players.

1) A lot of the girls that have been playing "high" level travel ball since 10 years old,(there is no such thing at 8 and 10 years of age) are burned out, injured to the point of not playing anymore because of it, or just have better things to do because they don't have a desire to play on the next level

2) A lot of the so called "can't miss" prospects back in 10U and 12U (see above)

3) At 16U everyone can pretty much play, especially on the higher level. So the DD all of a sudden isn't the great player the parents thought they were at 10U and 12U when they were just bigger than everyone else.Puberty has a way of doing that. Now, you have to grind to compete ( and going 0-4 or 1-5 every weekend, isn’t fun anymore)and a lot of players who didn't start that young are willing to do just that.

4) 16U requires desire, commitment, and a dedication to strive for excellence in the sport of softball. It's no longer a reason for a social event. It's no longer, I'm playing to please Mom and Dad. There are so many other ways to have fun with friends and family and please your parents. Now, you're playing for YOU, no one else.

My points are specific for the most part to the constant looking for an "A" level this or that. Bottom line, if they are an "A" level player they'll find you, if they are looking to move to another team. Because if they are truly an "A" player they apparently have lots of options,( and know lots of coaches, players, and parents that know what they are capable of). My suggestion would be taking a "B" level player with the characteristics listed in point number 4, that wants to play on the next level,and developing them. It's called "coaching"

Good luck, see you at the fields



I would love to watch you all play Dirt Life. What team do you all play for?


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